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paul barrett
post 30 Oct 2016, 07:52
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Lads we need to inject some Levity, Fun, and Craic here ! Can't believe how boringly dull the Forum has become.
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post 30 Oct 2016, 08:01
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not as we used to know it paul. not as we used to know it...
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post 30 Oct 2016, 23:00
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Seemingly so " Suspicion Always Haunts the Guilty Mind" Shakespeare
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post 30 Oct 2016, 23:47
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The forum is what the members choose to make it.

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post 31 Oct 2016, 09:49
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I imagine someone would get mightily offended If I injected some Aussie humour into the forum, as it's (humour) generally culturally and generationally based. I can't even mention Noddy's friend Big Ears or a former one run race horse Norma Stitz, without offending someone's PC sensibilities. Sadly I came to the Board too late and missed all the humour, fun and games. Anyone feel offended! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post 31 Oct 2016, 10:12
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As Penguin says, the forum is what the members make it. I often make some flippant remark and sometimes I make a deliberate effort to write something that I feel is funny. Nine times out of ten it falls on deaf ears, so I assume my humour is either not understood,or not appreciated. Being a bit thick-skinned, or just thick, I'll carry on with my daft contributions until I get a written warning or a red card.
Some forums have a dedicated section for "funnies" and a General Discussion slot for non automotive snippets. Should we look at this, or just slip the odd off-topic bit in as the mood takes us. I recollect getting an ear-full when I tried to make light of someone's post, just for the amusement value, so it does show how easily some people are offended, or are still recovering from a sense of humourectomy.
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post 31 Oct 2016, 10:32
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Hey Fred you can take the P out of me if I get too OCD!
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post 31 Oct 2016, 11:05
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Yes indeed, some humour doesn't cross boundries, however the "Stiff" upper lip can become rather off putting.
Aussie humour.......... Why not.
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post 31 Oct 2016, 11:09
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Oh BTW the Forum is what the members choose to make it, well we had a far more vibrant Forum. Maybe the Forum is what the Moderators choose to make it.
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post 31 Oct 2016, 11:33
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never mind paul.. where theres life theres hope ..
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post 31 Oct 2016, 13:49
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Returning to the Forum after a long absence, I notice that Paul has stepped in with a valiant effort to save it. Maybe I could help by stating why I stopped visiting:

1. Closing the doors - I initially joined this Forum because it was largely open access, in that many areas could be viewed by casual visitors without registration. The Forum Powers have decided over the last couple of years to close that down, so that you must register to view anything, and this discourages browsing and thus new members and thus starves the Forum of its very lifeblood.

2. Aussie humour - or lack thereof. A couple of Antipodean members became thoroughly and consistently obnoxious with their preaching and lecturing to new posters who had legitimate questions and did not need to be put down or made to feel foolish. Needless to say it was goodbye to the new posters and further starvation of the Forum. That wasn't over-moderation but rather under-moderation.

I would certainly like to see the Forum return to the vitality it enjoyed 3 or 4 years ago, but I think it unlikely. Several PM's from disappointed members have led me to believe that I am not the only one to regret the demise of a once excellent Forum.
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post 31 Oct 2016, 14:55
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Llansadwrn, well said ! Yes I have come back however much as I appreciate your sentiments I rather suspect others with differing agendas don't appreciate our efforts. The "Stiff" upper lip Brigade and lets keep things nice and cosy and to ourselves.
I enjoyed the Forum and without bragging along with my sparring partner helped, in no small way make it what it was and yes it does need a transfusion of acceptance that there's a whole big World beyond the country where it's based.

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post 31 Oct 2016, 15:05
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seems to me paul trasfusions no good try transplants ..
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post 31 Oct 2016, 16:28
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PB and GG: It's really difficult to find a British classic car forum that isn't pretty much on its last legs. I visit a half dozen when I'm feeling too cheerful and want something to make me a bit more depressed....... Without exception they are all rather cosy and secretive and seem happy with the dwindling numbers and vanishing interest.

Maybe it's chalk and cheese to bring this up, but as an Airstream owner I also visit the US-based Airstream Forum and it is boisterous, often very interesting, full of tips and knowledge (some good, some awful) and the views of threads often run into the hundreds of thousands. What's the difference? A lot of enthusiastic Airstream owners for a start, but IMHO above all the fact that you can see everything on the forum as a casual visitor, and only need to register if you wish to post on it. I am convinced that this is a virtuous cycle, because the number and enthusiasm of the posts leads to more people thinking that there must be something very exciting about owning an antiquated, expensive to maintain, fairly primitive and often leaky old caravan or motor home of one particular make, and then they join the forum to start adding their own daftly enthusiastic posts.....

If you were to tell me of a British classic car forum that was also completely open to browse without registration and that was always getting new members and threads, I would join it immediately. The car make would be irrelevant. Well, almost irrelevant. Maybe I'd draw the line at Ford Escorts........ No, I'd even join a Ford Escort forum. But I'd hope that the forum in question would be happy to have people with any make of British classic, or even foreign classic, and then we'd be getting towards what I think many of us are truly enthusiastic about: any old mobile iron that someone is succeeding or even valiantly trying to keep or put on the road.

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post 31 Oct 2016, 17:19
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Gordon Bennett!!! What sparked this off? I admit that I didn't know you couldn't have a look-see without signing up, but there a great many members and I have always considered this a good forum. Obviously time for the management/moderators to chip in with their ten pennorth.
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post 31 Oct 2016, 21:34
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I enjoy the forum and commend the moderators for their discerning observance of culturally varying viewpoints. Looking through a rear view mirror at what was seeming lost (?) and poking disparaging innuendo at antipodeans is neither inclusive, tolerant of cultural differences or likely to bring about a 'lighten-up change'. It is as Penguin states and also in life what you make of it.
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post 31 Oct 2016, 21:52
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No issue in having fun on the Forum, the Wolseley Arms is possibly the best place to do it. Please keep other posts on topic.

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post 31 Oct 2016, 22:05
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There Shouldn't be an issue with Fun.......Anywhere in a Forum !
Perhaps it's time for New Eyes, Ideas and Opinions.
Stale Familiarity breeds Contempt, the Heart of Democracy is Debate and not Dictation.
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post 1 Nov 2016, 00:16
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Mr Barrett.

This is the Wolseley Forum. It exists as an independent resource for Wolseley car owners, enthusiasts and others with an interest in the cars, the history and perhaps the life and times of the British car industry during the 20th century. As such, the Admin team expect to see the various topics stay on topic and provide the topic starters with relevant and hopefully useful information about their particular post. If a reply can contain an air of levity at the same time, that's absolutley fine.

If any member wishes to rip it up and start a comedy turn, that's what the off topic part of the forum is for. If that's not enough, try Facebook. On this forum, it's the Wolseley Arms. Do what ever you like in there, within the bounds of decency, copyright and libel laws. Just not in the Wolseley part of the forum.

The current tone of the forum is set by the active membership. People drift in and out over the years, so the balance changes with time. Overall, it has settled down with a good level of high quality posts on the technical and restoration side. Good, detailed information regarding increasingly rare cars is an excellent objective for any forum with a specific purpose.

As things stand, I would rather see the fifty odd regular contributors carry on in a gentle manner building the forum than to see two hundred idiots turn the place into a madhouse. The forum will not, under any circumstances, turn into the poisonous, nasty, spiteful mess that it had become in 2012.

It's a forum, a talking shop. If you are not having fun, why are you here?

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post 1 Nov 2016, 00:33
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Ah I was waiting for your invective, I must admit I haven't read your diatribe. Suffice to say it was precisely because of your self confessed intemperate comments I left/ was asked to stand away.
Please do not lecture me, if you are not capable of realising what has happened then I suggest your position as a Moderator is flawed.
I penned a Topic which received responses and initiated a debate, you have now chosen to personalise it and round on me in a disgusting manner, I will not disturb you any further and suggest that an apology is in order or I may seek outside advices.
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