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post 11 Jul 2014, 08:15
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Guzzler and I are taking a trip up to Auckland tomorrow (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The main reason for going is to see my colleague Peter Jefferies play a special one-off gig at the Kings Arms with Shayne Carter and the duo Little Moon:
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It is also hopefully a chance to see a couple of other Morris Isis owners; one has two series I Isis Travellers and the other has a low mileage barn find series II.

So I've had my WOF test today - 12 days early (they can back date it for 14 days). This was so another set of eyes (and ears) can check it over.
Grease points all done and I bled the brakes too, which I haven't done for ages.
Tonight I think I'll change the gearbox oil (again, something I haven't done for ages) and check the diff oil level. And engine oil and water. Again. And tyres.

And I cleaned it inside and out. It would not do for one to travel in squalor... (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/coffee.gif)

After all this I think we're good to go!
It has been a good few years since the Guzzler has been on a long trip, and a really long time with me by myself.
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post 11 Jul 2014, 08:57
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It's good for an old car to do a long trip from time to time as it keeps everything from seizing up and burns old petrol that may be still in petrol tank. And don't forget to put some tools that you may need if you have a breakdown

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post 13 Jul 2014, 09:47
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QUOTE (matthew.h @ 11 Jul 2014, 20:57 ) *
And don't forget to put some tools that you may need if you have a breakdown

I certainly did - my red toolkit.
...and some duct tape (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Didn't have to use any of it (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post 13 Jul 2014, 11:06
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So, Guzzler and I made it there and back. 563 miles in two days.

Overall, I don't think I could have chosen a worse weekend for wet weather. The rain on the way up was constant and driving, the whole way.
...so I've found out that the Guzzler has slightly leaky front and rear windscreens, and a leak somewhere in the boot.

The driver's side windscreen leak meant that I could not listen to any music on the way up because the radio was being dampened; I didn't want to take the risk of something going 'fizz'.
Anyway, by stuffing an old towel into the passenger's glovebox and one into the the driver's formerly-a-glovebox-but-now-a-CDplayer place, and two towels on the floor by the front doors I kept some moisture at bay.

I was certainly glad I installed a pair of NOS Trico wiper arms and blades the day before I left!

In Auckland I went to see Terry - a man who has two Morris Isis Travellers! It was great to see both vehicles. The totally original beige one ex-Christchurch is just amazing and Terry says it runs beautifully. The engine is still the original grey that series I Isis came out with and that engine runs so sweetly - Terry started them both up for me to listen to.
The restored green Traveller has been rather more testing...
The bodywork, paint and upholstery are all very well done, but the rebuilt engine and gearbox have given trouble. Recently the engine blew a head gasket, probably due to the 'specialist' re-using the old head gasket (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Terry is a wonderful gentleman and I look forward to meeting up with him again in the future (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I was not able to take any photos of the Travellers, but there are some on this site already.

The music gig was good and I am glad I went. Not everyone's cup of tea for sure, but I liked it a lot (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

On the way back I took this photo outside my accomodation. One of these cars is not like the other ones...
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The next day I went to see how damp the Isis' carpets were. Quite damp indeed and the insides of the windows were coated with condensation, so with my towels and paper towels purloined from the bathrooms I mopped up what I could, opened the windows and then spent $4 drying out my old towels whilst I had breakfast.

...then I was off to see another Isis. This one was down south; a slight detour but no trouble. Murray's series I Isis has a nice story -
The man who drove it was an engineer and looked after it well, however he died in 1970 and his wife never learned to drive, so the car spent the next 40 years in the garage without being moved, or visited.
When the old lady had to move into a rest home a few years ago the garage doors had to be forced open.
It did need a respray - the paint had faded where it was next to a window in the garage and the rear bumper needed rechroming, but everything else is original.
47,000 miles. There is still a water injection system for the inlet manifold - quite the rage in the 1960's, apparently.
Murray drained the old petrol, reset the points... and it started almost immediately!
Even the underside still has the original factory paint - never had any underseal or anything.
A beautiful car!

This time I did get a photo, and it is the only time I have ever been able to take a photo of my Isis with another one:
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Murray has never seen another series II Isis in the North Island (apart from a wreck behind his shed) and he wondered if I have the only one. I can only remember two series II's in Canterbury (one nice and one grotty) and there was a pair of nice ones in Invercargill that I had heard of.

Here is the dealer's sticker from Murray's wreck. Stanmore Road is only minutes away from where I grew up in Christchurch!
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After a nice lunch I was off again.
Getting to Hamilton was easy, then in Hamilton I got lost. Me and Hamilton just don't get along (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ...
What a stroke of luck Google maps and directions are (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I took a more scenic route to Otarahunga then I was back on the main road to New Plymouth, this time with only occasional rain.

Things to look into:
The cooling system, particularly after idling in traffic. It's all getting a bit hot.
The passenger door makes a lot of wind noise. Noisy and annoying.
The leaks!
A possible engine noise at high speed and load - e.g. 60mph with yer foot down.

On the +ve side:
The odometer is accurate. I noted it read 88 miles as I drew into Pio Pio on the way up. Google maps confirms that this is 88 miles.
I was very happy with the Guzzler's handling and road-holding, both in the wet and the dry. Twisty bits of road were quite good fun (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
In the drier conditions on the way back it even made 24mpg. Woo! (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post 13 Jul 2014, 13:46
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Wonderful stuff! Great to hear about you doing so many miles at a go. Leaks are such a trial, and sometimes even finding the source is a real pain, with trickles of water creeping their way miles from where they start. Have you tried the much recommended Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure yet?

PS.... I'd hope that you have at least some engine noise at 60 mph (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post 13 Jul 2014, 18:26
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That was a good read - thanks.

Were you getting the leaks when the car was stationary, or whilst driving?

Worth checking to see if the gear shift gaiter is intact as the deteriorating rubber cracks easily. Door alignment must be another place to check (especially if you are getting wind noise at high speed) and of course screen and door seals.

Was the damp more one side than the other?

Nice to learn that the mileage reads well. I need to check mine again.

I have the same issue with the cooling system getting very hot? I wonder if this is a common issue. Would be interesting to hear Howard's view on this.

I don't get any abnormal engine noise at any speed. If anything I am surprised how quiet and smooth the engine is considering age and size. What sort of noise are you getting?
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post 13 Jul 2014, 23:21
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QUOTE (GodalmingYellow @ 14 Jul 2014, 06:26 ) *
That was a good read - thanks.

You're welcome.
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Were you getting the leaks when the car was stationary, or whilst driving?

No idea about when stationary, but most certainly whilst driving - I could see it coming in over the bottom RH windscreen rubber. It was absolutely driving rain though, sheets of water on the road.
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Worth checking to see if the gear shift gaiter is intact as the deteriorating rubber cracks easily. Door alignment must be another place to check (especially if you are getting wind noise at high speed) and of course screen and door seals.

I had not thought about the gear shift gaiter - thanks for the idea. There is a curved metal plate under the gearchange that the previous owner fitted, possibly to help with keeping water out, but probably more so to keep the lever from being whacked out of gear over rough terrain.

The front and rear screen should be easy - hopefully just a case of driving to a windscreen specialist for them to pop more goop in.
As for the door alignments... one of my least favourite jobs, especially just by myself. Another problem is that the passenger side doors had both been stoved in before I got the car. Possibly the frames are a bit misshapen.
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Was the damp more one side than the other?

They were both pretty soggy!
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Nice to learn that the mileage reads well. I need to check mine again.

Google Maps was rather handy in this matter. I was surprised that it was bang-on, but then the speedo reads pretty much exactly correct too. It must be that the 3.9 diff with the 185R15 tyres 'fits' perfectly.
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I have the same issue with the cooling system getting very hot? I wonder if this is a common issue. Would be interesting to hear Howard's view on this.

My radiator was rebuilt with 3-row core more than 15 years ago and the fins are falling apart now, so it is pretty rubbish. Still, I'm going to try flushing out the block and radiator to see if that helps.
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I don't get any abnormal engine noise at any speed. If anything I am surprised how quiet and smooth the engine is considering age and size. What sort of noise are you getting?

It is difficult to hear the noise due to the excessive wind noise (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
If I plant my foot at 60mph in top it sounds like a knocking (to a paranoid old car owner...)
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post 14 Jul 2014, 03:12
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If I plant my foot at 60mph in top it sounds like a knocking (to a paranoid old car owner...)


I had this problem...turned out to be the biscuit tin knocking against the Thermos.

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post 14 Jul 2014, 08:57
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QUOTE (Danny @ 14 Jul 2014, 15:12 ) *
I had this problem...turned out to be the biscuit tin knocking against the Thermos.

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Probably is just something silly like this. Oil pressure at 60mph is 50psi, temp gauge does not move alarmingly.

The only change I've recently made is to fit the K&N filters and the stub stacks inside the filters, so it is possible that the mixture is wrong.
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QUOTE (webmonster @ 14 Jul 2014, 00:21 ) *
As for the door alignments... one of my least favourite jobs, especially just by myself. Another problem is that the passenger side doors had both been stoved in before I got the car. Possibly the frames are a bit misshapen.

I agree about doors, the weight and bulk make them difficult to keep steady. Possibly a job worth getting some help with.

They were both pretty soggy!

Could be running across the bulkhead after coming through one side I suppose. I take it you have a solid undercarriage so to speak! I would have though it unlikely that doors both sides would be leaking unless it was down to perished seals. Its surprising how far water can travel with capillary action, so could easily be one side getting soaked and then spreading. I had a similar problem with a Renault 5 a few years back where the carpets kept getting soaked and there was condensation on the inside of the screen. It happened when the car was stationary too purely down to the condensation and the amount of water it produced was surprising. It turned out to be a faulty screen seal. I don't think it takes much of a leak to create a big puddle at 60mph. I also had a similar issue when I took my Landy through some floods above bulkhead level earlier this year, but that's a different story.

Google Maps was rather handy in this matter. I was surprised that it was bang-on, but then the speedo reads pretty much exactly correct too. It must be that the 3.9 diff with the 185R15 tyres 'fits' perfectly.

Without dismantling the crown and pinion and counting teeth, its difficult to tell what the diff ratio is. My speedo reads about 20% more than actual speed (I've run it alongside a SatNav with speed function). I've tried marking up the axle and wheel and rotating them manually to see how many turns of the wheel creates a single turn of the axle, but a little play in the system means reading it with any accuracy is tricky. It came out roughly 4:1 but it could be 4.1:1 or 3.9:1. Even then it could easily just be the speedo inaccuracy.

My radiator was rebuilt with 3-row core more than 15 years ago and the fins are falling apart now, so it is pretty rubbish. Still, I'm going to try flushing out the block and radiator to see if that helps.

15 years doesn't sound long unless you are doing 20,000 miles a year. I would offer you my spare radiator, but it might be costly to send and I'll probably need it myself soon!!. I assume you know about the key in the block for draining.

It is difficult to hear the noise due to the excessive wind noise (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
If I plant my foot at 60mph in top it sounds like a knocking (to a paranoid old car owner...)

Maybe you have a ghost! (IMG:http://www.wolseleyforum.com/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Does the knocking increase in speed the further you push the engine or does it just become louder. If an engine issue you would expect the former and you might expect it to be more continuous rather than just at high speed. Might be worth checking higher revs in a lower gear which may help to establish if it might be a problem with a specific gear in the gear box. Otherwise it could be something really simple such as some rubbish picked up off the road and vibrating or flapping about in your undercarriage airflow!


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